Meaning of "First Thus"

[Art Layton]

Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?

Art Layton
Stamford CT

[Bob Riedel]

Art --

"First thus" is a handy but somewhat dubious shorthand phrase, and is a menu
choice for the Edition field in ABE's Homebase program, so some sellers use it
frequently. It should, though (I think), be followed by some kind of expanded
explanation of the particulars of what makes the book at least
semi-significant: first mass-market paperback printing, first illustrated
edition, first photoplay edition, first edition with a punch-out mobile and a
Wet-Nap glued inside the back cover by the publisher, etc.

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"

Bob
Print Matters! Used & Rare Books
http://www.abebooks.com/home/printmat

[John Pelan]

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?
Art Layton
Stamford CT

Indicates that the book has been previously published in some form.
For example, Terry Lamsley's award-winning collection UNDER THE CRUST
was originally a self-published paperback intended to be sold to
tourists. The Canadian publisher Ash-Tree Press produced a hardcover
edition of the book for sale to a (slightly) larger market. It is a
"first thus". Another example would be any time where two (or more)
books are collected in a single volume, say LORD OF THE RINGS as an
example. The single volume edition may be described as "first thus".

* "First thus": Dealer shorthand for "You can't find or afford the
real thing, so you might as well settle for this."

Cheers,

John


* From The Beekslayers Guide to Bookselling & Bullshit
(a work in progress)

[michael adams]

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?
Art Layton
Stamford CT

"First thus" is often used by booksellers to confirm a
books identity as a True First Edition by reference to
a specific indentification point, or points.

So that if it's a unique identifying point of a 1st of
(the mythical) "The Blue Lagoon", that the word "Palm" is
missspelt "Talm" on p 344, then the description would
include -

Blue Lagoon, First, thus "Palm" misspelled as "Talm" on p.344
etc, etc.


michael adams

...

[RWF]

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?
Art Layton

Hey Art
Wasn't just a week or so ago that you informed the world that you were sick
of this group, never coming back, etc.?
So what happened?

[Art Layton]

Post by RWF

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?
Art Layton

Hey Art
Wasn't just a week or so ago that you informed the world that you were sick
of this group, never coming back, etc.?
So what happened?

No, I wasn't sick of the group; only those that posted messages
attacking others and the others that posted books for sale with no
attempt to determine if this was the appropriate newsgroup.

Art

[RWF]

Gee Art let's look at your original post shall we...
From: Art Layton (***@optonline.net)
Subject: Another Usenet ruined by flaming and irrelevant postings
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.books
Date: 2004-08-11 11:50:20 PST
I am signing off for the next few months. I am sick and tired of
reading attacks on others, books for sale and totally irrelevant
postings. See you in January, 2005.
Art Layton
Stamford CT

You promised you wouldn't be back till 1/05 and it's still August.
So much for your integrity.
--
Bob Finnan
The Hardy Boys Unofficial Home Page
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon
New & Out Of Print Books, Books-On-Tape, Videos, DVDs, CD-ROMs For Sale
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon/hbsale.htm
.....................................................................

Post by Art Layton

Post by RWF

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?
Art Layton

Hey Art
Wasn't just a week or so ago that you informed the world that you were sick
of this group, never coming back, etc.?
So what happened?

No, I wasn't sick of the group; only those that posted messages
attacking others and the others that posted books for sale with no
attempt to determine if this was the appropriate newsgroup.
Art

[Art Layton]

Post by RWF
Gee Art let's look at your original post shall we...
Subject: Another Usenet ruined by flaming and irrelevant postings
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.books
Date: 2004-08-11 11:50:20 PST
I am signing off for the next few months. I am sick and tired of
reading attacks on others, books for sale and totally irrelevant
postings. See you in January, 2005.
Art Layton
Stamford CT
You promised you wouldn't be back till 1/05 and it's still August.
So much for your integrity.

Yeah, you got me; no integrity.

Art Layton
Stamford CT

[RWF]

I liked you better when you promised not to post here.
--
Bob Finnan
The Hardy Boys Unofficial Home Page
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon
New & Out Of Print Books, Books-On-Tape, Videos, DVDs, CD-ROMs For Sale
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon/hbsale.htm
.....................................................................

Post by Art Layton

Post by RWF
Gee Art let's look at your original post shall we...
Subject: Another Usenet ruined by flaming and irrelevant postings
Newsgroups: rec.collecting.books
Date: 2004-08-11 11:50:20 PST
I am signing off for the next few months. I am sick and tired of
reading attacks on others, books for sale and totally irrelevant
postings. See you in January, 2005.
Art Layton
Stamford CT
You promised you wouldn't be back till 1/05 and it's still August.
So much for your integrity.

Yeah, you got me; no integrity.
Art Layton
Stamford CT

[Art Layton]

Post by RWF
I liked you better when you promised not to post here.

I am sure I can return to that state.

Art Layton
Stamford CT

[fundoc]

Post by Art Layton
Please remind me; what does it mean when a bookseller describes a book as
"first thus"?

It means you're about to be robbed.

Post by Art Layton
Art Layton
Stamford CT